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One Does Not Simply Outlaw the Catholic Church

 

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  • constance jennifer lee June 5, 2012, 11:19 am

    im a catholic my self a convert but respect other faiths were here ti respect each other as christ im self said share the gospal message of love for all men

  • Helen June 5, 2012, 11:34 am

    But many regimes have tried. The Church has prevailed. What does that tell us?

    • James Ryan Ponce June 5, 2012, 1:09 pm

      It tells us that God favors the Church most of all.

    • Sandy June 5, 2012, 3:17 pm

      The gates of hell shall not prevail against us.

  • Jesse June 5, 2012, 11:35 am

    Constance, Christ send out men to spread the good news…to those who refused to listen they were to leave those cities and shake the dust off their feet.

    The disciples did not convert the pagan world to Christianity by “respecting” the false religions of others. They conquered the world for Christ by speaking with authority and truth, in love.

    Today we are losing souls because of the lie that Jesus’ gospel is about being nice and respecting others. STAND UP for what you believe, or sit down.

    • James Ryan Ponce June 5, 2012, 1:16 pm

      I do think you are right.. but I don’t think Christ wants us to be blatantly disrespectful and beat people over the head with truth. We are to bring truth to them and let them decide. Hopefully they choose God as He has chose us but they have every right to reject him either actively or passively. The doors to hell are locked from the inside.. God does not so much send people to hell as people choose what is not God, or of Him, over Him. If you choose things not of God, God will honor your choice and allow you to truly be without Him.. perhaps for all eternity. This reality is why we should try to bring all of our truth to the world out of Love but in all seriousness.. we cannot sacrifice truth for acceptance and comfort. I do think it is possible to bring truth to others effectively and gently, without sacrificing any truth for the sake of false beliefs.

      • Helen June 5, 2012, 1:44 pm

        “Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words”
        St Francis of Asissi

      • Jesse June 5, 2012, 2:17 pm

        I do not advocate dis-respect, but when speaking the truth some people will listen and some will get upset (and maybe try to kill you). Just read the book of Acts. They were constantly under threat of being stoned.

        Our culture is shifting away from our Christianity back to paganism, and it needs to be confronted.

        “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” – Winston Churchill

      • JoyceK June 8, 2012, 3:00 pm

        VERY well put, and so true, of a church so often misunderstood!! Thanks for your post; it made my day!!

    • Patrick June 6, 2012, 3:32 pm

      Amen Jesse! Ireland use to worship the pagan druid religion until St Patrick came along and knocked down their pagan alters and burned them to the ground. Now Ireland is a Christian nation and saint Patrick is a saint.

  • Bob Wilmoth June 5, 2012, 1:01 pm

    Men, and certainly not men with guns or swords, do not convert people, the Holy Spirit does. It has taken too many millinia and too many wars for most people to figure that out, and some never will, but its a fact. Tolerance of others is Truth, and it is that Truth, in part, which leads others, by seeing our example, to seek what we know. That is standing up for our faith.
    The Church that sought to conquer the world, especially in the Middle Ages, was often one usurped by greedy and undeserving men whose corrupt families bought the Bishopric for their sons. That is not the Church of today, and we shouldn’t be proud of that era of the Church’s history, or at least I am not.
    That being said, do stand up for your faith. It is our right and our duty to do so. Do so firmly and unwaveringly, but in love and with compassion for those who have not yet heard the call.

    • Ian June 5, 2012, 1:08 pm

      I believe it was Fulton Sheen that said “Tolerate people, not ideas.”

      Sometimes it is necessary to stand up for your rights, even with force. The Cristiada was not about forcing conversions but about defending the basic rights of Catholics.

      • Edge June 6, 2012, 9:32 am

        “Tolerance only applies to persons, never to principles.
        Intolerance only applies to principles, never to persons.” – Bishop Fulton Sheen

        A great saying to keep in mind and heart.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G1k0R6TMUU

    • David McGuire June 5, 2012, 1:21 pm

      One does not simply outlaw any church, be it Catholic, Protestant, or other, especially in a country founded on the belief that all people deserve freedom to worship in the church of their choice. It is impossible to pursue any Christian path without being damned in the eyes of another. Stand for your faith, whether or not it appeals to the doctrines of other religions or sects, align yourself with God’s Love given through whichever religion speaks most like Christ to your heart.

  • James Ryan Ponce June 5, 2012, 1:30 pm

    There are worse things in life then dying.. such as betraying your faith and your God in Heaven. We are to follow Christ’s example and be willing to give our lives for what is true, good, and beautiful. In other words, we are to honor that which is most likened to God even if honoring it brings death. This is something the Cristeros all knew well. Though when it comes to fighting, we are not called to be fools. Some will be called to be true martyrs while others will be called to defend others. Defense in such situations however requires arms and ammunition. It is unfortunate but it was not the Churches fault but that of the Secular and increasingly anti-theistic Mexican Government. We are called to follow Christ in so far as we are called to be who we were meant to be in the eyes of God Almighty. Thus, some of us will be called in just such times to defend the lives of innocent worshipers and deal out God’s justice for crimes against humanity. Lets pray that such times do not befall us in these times that we live, but if they do let us pray that we have the courage to do as our Brothers in Christ did in Mexico.

    • Helen June 5, 2012, 1:49 pm

      I say we should respect people for being Children of God. But, as Christians, we’re to speak up for Christ. He’s the Son of God, not a guru, or a prophet that promoted peace. He’s a Revolutionary and He came to shake up the world.

  • Chris McKenna June 5, 2012, 2:00 pm

    I believe it was Chesterton who said that “Tolerance is the virtue of a man with no convictions.”

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