Comments on: I Hate Large, Homeschooling Familes http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/ If it\'s Catholic we\'ll talk about it and probably sell it. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:23:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Taynia http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-2984 Taynia Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:22:56 +0000 http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-2984 you are absolutely right. if I had kids I would probably home school but far too many of them that I know DO NOT DISCIPLINE or TRAIN their children sufficiently. they act like animals. I think the parents (moms especially) have bitten off more than they can chew and refuse to admit it. homeschooling is fantastic. But not everyone is capable of it. kids have to be trained and socialized. And the second one goes hand in hand with the first. too bad they don't consider what a poor witness they are giving...not only to homeschooling but to families and openness to life in general. you'll get no spanking form me. it was a great article. you are absolutely right.

if I had kids I would probably home school but far too many of them that I know DO NOT DISCIPLINE or TRAIN their children sufficiently. they act like animals. I think the parents (moms especially) have bitten off more than they can chew and refuse to admit it.

homeschooling is fantastic. But not everyone is capable of it.

kids have to be trained and socialized. And the second one goes hand in hand with the first.

too bad they don’t consider what a poor witness they are giving…not only to homeschooling but to families and openness to life in general.

you’ll get no spanking form me. it was a great article.

]]> By: pligg.com http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-2894 pligg.com Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:50:34 +0000 http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-2894 <strong>I Hate Large, Homeschooling Familes | Musings From a Catholic Bookstore...</strong> Sorry, I just had to post this here.... I Hate Large, Homeschooling Familes | Musings From a Catholic Bookstore…

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]]> By: Theresa http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-2879 Theresa Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:38:07 +0000 http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-2879 I agree that we must be careful of the image we represent to society but as a homeschooling mother, albeit of a smaller number, I have not seen these problems. I know many homeschooling families and I have never met one yet that had serious discipline issues. Indeed all I have met have had wonderfully behaved, pleasant, and generous children. J.M.J. Theresa I agree that we must be careful of the image we represent to society but as a homeschooling mother, albeit of a smaller number, I have not seen these problems. I know many homeschooling families and I have never met one yet that had serious discipline issues. Indeed all I have met have had wonderfully behaved, pleasant, and generous children.
J.M.J.
Theresa

]]> By: Pippi http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-1768 Pippi Thu, 29 May 2008 20:20:03 +0000 http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-1768 I agree with much of your post. I am a homeschooling Mom of 4 children, and my husband and I have worked REALLY hard to teach our children to behave well and to always consider how they are affecting others in anything that they do. We have, many times, over the years received compliments from strangers in public places about how well behaved our children are (particularly in restaurants). But we've spent a lot of time standing in lines patiently at Disneyland since they were all babies too, so they've had a LOT of experience at having to be patient, lol! Oh, but we have kids like this in our extended family! My parents-in-law are raising the two daughters of their own adopted daughter. I find them nearly impossible to tolerate. In fact, we moved out of state and one of the first things I noticed was what an enormous relief it was to not have to deal with these issues anymore. These two girls are similar in ages to two of my own children. And they absolutely refuse to share, they yank things away from others, push, shove, hit, yell, the works. They would climb all over our furniture, shoes on the couch, food on the carpet, etc., and my in-laws wouldn't try to manage their behavior one bit! I even had to resort to having my children's birthday parties at public venues because I just couldn't tolerate these kids in my home...they would grab and try to rip open gifts that belonged to my children, scream to get to blow the candles out instead of the birthday child, etc., etc. We started having parties in places where only the gifts that they brought were even there (we'd leave all the others at home and have a private "family" party later that night after dinner), and where my children had enough room to "get away" from them when they needed to. What a hassle! However, homeschooling had nothing to do with it. They aren't homeschooled, they aren't catholic, and they are the only 2 kids in their family or household. It just has to do with parenting. But like you, I find that many, many, many parents just do not put any effort into teaching their children to really think about how they are affecting others. I see it at parks, at the public schools (when my children were still attending), at restaurants, at movie theatres, at the mall, and at Disneyland. I always want to say to the parents, "Don't you realize you are turning your children into people nobody can stand to be around? It's really not fair to them to not be taught any better!" Of course, I've never actually said that, lol. I haven't had to be around these two particular girls in 3 years, and it has been so peaceful! We're visiting them this Summer and although I'm going to do everything in my power to make it a good experience so that my husband can visit peacefully with his parents (I'm planning to jump in and play games with the kids, do arts/crafts, etc., to keep it from being a "freeform" play situation), I will be very glad when the 2 days (2 days? oh God.) are up! It's not homeschooling. Or catholicism. It's neglectful parenting. I agree with much of your post. I am a homeschooling Mom of 4 children, and my husband and I have worked REALLY hard to teach our children to behave well and to always consider how they are affecting others in anything that they do. We have, many times, over the years received compliments from strangers in public places about how well behaved our children are (particularly in restaurants). But we’ve spent a lot of time standing in lines patiently at Disneyland since they were all babies too, so they’ve had a LOT of experience at having to be patient, lol!

Oh, but we have kids like this in our extended family! My parents-in-law are raising the two daughters of their own adopted daughter. I find them nearly impossible to tolerate. In fact, we moved out of state and one of the first things I noticed was what an enormous relief it was to not have to deal with these issues anymore.

These two girls are similar in ages to two of my own children. And they absolutely refuse to share, they yank things away from others, push, shove, hit, yell, the works. They would climb all over our furniture, shoes on the couch, food on the carpet, etc., and my in-laws wouldn’t try to manage their behavior one bit! I even had to resort to having my children’s birthday parties at public venues because I just couldn’t tolerate these kids in my home…they would grab and try to rip open gifts that belonged to my children, scream to get to blow the candles out instead of the birthday child, etc., etc. We started having parties in places where only the gifts that they brought were even there (we’d leave all the others at home and have a private “family” party later that night after dinner), and where my children had enough room to “get away” from them when they needed to. What a hassle!

However, homeschooling had nothing to do with it. They aren’t homeschooled, they aren’t catholic, and they are the only 2 kids in their family or household. It just has to do with parenting. But like you, I find that many, many, many parents just do not put any effort into teaching their children to really think about how they are affecting others. I see it at parks, at the public schools (when my children were still attending), at restaurants, at movie theatres, at the mall, and at Disneyland. I always want to say to the parents, “Don’t you realize you are turning your children into people nobody can stand to be around? It’s really not fair to them to not be taught any better!” Of course, I’ve never actually said that, lol.

I haven’t had to be around these two particular girls in 3 years, and it has been so peaceful! We’re visiting them this Summer and although I’m going to do everything in my power to make it a good experience so that my husband can visit peacefully with his parents (I’m planning to jump in and play games with the kids, do arts/crafts, etc., to keep it from being a “freeform” play situation), I will be very glad when the 2 days (2 days? oh God.) are up!

It’s not homeschooling. Or catholicism. It’s neglectful parenting.

]]> By: Denise http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-1228 Denise Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:35:37 +0000 http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-1228 I am a homeschooling mom of 6 children. My family is a sign to the world that God is still loved and trusted, worshiped and served. I have gotten sneers in grocery stores even when my kids were behaving like angels! Sneers and gasps that have brought be to tears. But I have also been told how I have inspired others to be open to life giving love. One stranger told me when I was pregnant with my 6th baby, "You're God's kind of girl!" It was the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me. Another rule I would add for the children is that when at any large gathering, they never sit in the furniture if there is any adult without a seat!! I am a homeschooling mom of 6 children. My family is a sign to the world that God is still loved and trusted, worshiped and served. I have gotten sneers in grocery stores even when my kids were behaving like angels! Sneers and gasps that have brought be to tears. But I have also been told how I have inspired others to be open to life giving love. One stranger told me when I was pregnant with my 6th baby, “You’re God’s kind of girl!” It was the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me.
Another rule I would add for the children is that when at any large gathering, they never sit in the furniture if there is any adult without a seat!!

]]> By: tiffany http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-404 tiffany Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:51:16 +0000 http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-404 by the way i really agreed with your article. my friends and i talk about the same issues. by the way i really agreed with your article. my friends and i talk about the same issues.

]]> By: tiffany http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-405 tiffany Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:50:24 +0000 http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-405 lets face it, 1 kid or 50 kids, a lot of parents this day in age don't disaplen or follow through with their threats, and lots of other things. i have had similar sit. with homeschool kids, and of course more often with kids in public school with parents who work full time. but ya know some of those people don't clame to be a light to the world. but homeschooling large families say they are, and i too cann't stand to be around some of their kids just like anyone elses. so i say pick people to hang with that disapline like you and maybe it won't be so frustrating, lol lets face it, 1 kid or 50 kids, a lot of parents this day in age don’t disaplen or follow through with their threats, and lots of other things. i have had similar sit. with homeschool kids, and of course more often with kids in public school with parents who work full time. but ya know some of those people don’t clame to be a light to the world. but homeschooling large families say they are, and i too cann’t stand to be around some of their kids just like anyone elses. so i say pick people to hang with that disapline like you and maybe it won’t be so frustrating, lol

]]> By: Proving My Point About Prejudice Against Large Families « Musings from a Catholic Bookstore http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-401 Proving My Point About Prejudice Against Large Families « Musings from a Catholic Bookstore Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:02:24 +0000 http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-401 [...] My Point About Prejudice Against Large Families This is a great blog post that emphasizes a point I made a year ago about the public image you portray as a large homeschooling family. There is a prejudice out there [...] [...] My Point About Prejudice Against Large Families This is a great blog post that emphasizes a point I made a year ago about the public image you portray as a large homeschooling family. There is a prejudice out there [...]

]]> By: Patt http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-410 Patt Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:38:08 +0000 http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-410 Excellent article! As a former homeschool group leader I saw this sort of behavior far too frequently. It was embarassing to take kids on field trips because they would be all over the place like a bunch of monkeys and their mothers were oblivious! Thanks for addressing an issue far too many ignore. I have 3 boys and we always expected good behavior from them and never let them out of our sight unless they were going to a playroom or outside. Homeschoolers in general no matter what the size of their families have made bad impressions all over by lack of discipline. Of course it isn't just homeschoolers, it seems to be modern parenting in general. Excellent article! As a former homeschool group leader I saw this sort of behavior far too frequently. It was embarassing to take kids on field trips because they would be all over the place like a bunch of monkeys and their mothers were oblivious!
Thanks for addressing an issue far too many ignore. I have 3 boys and we always expected good behavior from them and never let them out of our sight unless they were going to a playroom or outside. Homeschoolers in general no matter what the size of their families have made bad impressions all over by lack of discipline. Of course it isn’t just homeschoolers, it seems to be modern parenting in general.

]]> By: Manda http://catholicinformation.aquinasandmore.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-423 Manda Sat, 08 Sep 2007 17:54:14 +0000 http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/i-hate-large-homeschooling-familes/#comment-423 I like your observations. Many of these are instances in my own family. I am a young mom of now five children. My dream was to have a BMW, designer clothes, and 2 children and a Golden Retriever. I have put my life and all its surprises in Gods hands. I had to let alot of my type A personality fly out the window with each addition to my family. I like the scenario you paint in regards to a large family being perfect little robots. I used to aim for those "compliments". I still get them from time to ime. Those compliments do not fuel my desire for my kids to do their best. Sometimes I think God has something in mind during these not so perfect times our kids will be kids. I fight a daily fight in dealing with consistancy. The biggest thing I have learned about a large family is you never know what is going on with other poeple. God has given me the grace to be more sympathetic to everyone. More kindness and a better attitude in general. I tend to ask a mom that seems to having a problem if she needs help. If I see out of control children I say a prayer for her family. (or secretly I think thank God my kids are not doing that at this moment.) Anyway, if I stopped having kids because of lifes little dramas I would be missing out on the most rewarding HARD work I have ever done. I like your observations. Many of these are instances in my own family. I am a young mom of now five children. My dream was to have a BMW, designer clothes, and 2 children and a Golden Retriever. I have put my life and all its surprises in Gods hands. I had to let alot of my type A personality fly out the window with each addition to my family. I like the scenario you paint in regards to a large family being perfect little robots. I used to aim for those “compliments”. I still get them from time to ime. Those compliments do not fuel my desire for my kids to do their best. Sometimes I think God has something in mind during these not so perfect times our kids will be kids.

I fight a daily fight in dealing with consistancy. The biggest thing I have learned about a large family is you never know what is going on with other poeple. God has given me the grace to be more sympathetic to everyone. More kindness and a better attitude in general. I tend to ask a mom that seems to having a problem if she needs help. If I see out of control children I say a prayer for her family. (or secretly I think thank God my kids are not doing that at this moment.) Anyway, if I stopped having kids because of lifes little dramas I would be missing out on the most rewarding HARD work I have ever done.

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